[yippieyan]

Hi all~~

After allowing the 2 babies to live in harmony for a week (got them last thursday), I've finally separate them.. They didn't fight but I dont want to take any risks.. love them both equally and dont want anything to happen.. sobz =(

I've a 3 storey cage for them My link HC-041, Chip is in the bottom floor with the plastic container while Dale is in the 2nd floor.. Is it ok if i didnt give Dale a lot of bedding? he seems quite poor thing there, trying to get used to the new environment again.. and, after washing their cage, can i swop them ard? ie Dale in the 1st level, and Chip in the 2nd level? or should i just keep them as it is? * it seems unfair to Dale, but I can't get another cage due to space constraint =( my bf says i'm paranoia for separating them so fast =X

[Mazeon]

You have two hamsters living in harmony and you are separating them? Hmm..if I'm not wrong, they are dwarf hamsters right?

Personally, I feel that if they can live in harmony together, there's really no need to separate them. Separating them might bring another set of problems like more bedding has to used and more work has to be done.

Then again, it's up to you. If they can live happily together and are of the same sex, then why not?

As long as you constantly observe their behaviour, you should be able to separate them in the event that they turn aggressive.

[yuheng1993]

yeah,keep them together first.If they start to fight,there is still time to seperate them!

[sunshinebaby]

yah! I I wish i have 2 hamsters living in harmony loh! wakakaka... keep them together until they decide to be alone.

[yippieyan]

I separate le =( sob sobzz~~~ they are puddings~ and they're young, 3weeks old.. I'm afraid of them fighting eventually coz the hammies are in my bf place and he works so i'm afraid, wad happen if they fight when no one's at home~ they do squeak occasionally nothing serious but dont want to take risk.. what if i see a half dead hamster? haiz~

[yippieyan]

yippieyan, on 22 July 2010 - 11:08 PM, said:

I separate le =( sob sobzz~~~ they are puddings~ and they're young, 3weeks old.. I'm afraid of them fighting eventually coz the hammies are in my bf place and he works so i'm afraid, wad happen if they fight when no one's at home~ they do squeak occasionally nothing serious but dont want to take risk.. what if i see a half dead hamster? haiz~

o ya, forgot to say tt i dont live with my bf, thus I cant monitor them constantly =(

when i got chip and dale, an experienced owner help to integrate honey with them.. who knows, when we reach home, chip being v timid and edgy, ka jiao Honey and honey in defense bite his ears.. lucky we manage to see it and separate honey out =( his ears recovered but still, paranoid me scared such freak accidents will occur again~

anyway anyone using such cagE? how u all put the beddings?

[Mazeon]

yippieyan, on 22 July 2010 - 11:11 PM, said:

o ya, forgot to say tt i dont live with my bf, thus I cant monitor them constantly =(

when i got chip and dale, an experienced owner help to integrate honey with them.. who knows, when we reach home, chip being v timid and edgy, ka jiao Honey and honey in defense bite his ears.. lucky we manage to see it and separate honey out =( his ears recovered but still, paranoid me scared such freak accidents will occur again~

anyway anyone using such cagE? how u all put the beddings?

If you didn't separate them for long, you can still put them back together. The chances of them fighting should be quite low, especially when they are placed close together and able to smell each other.

As for the cage, it sounds like you have those multi-storey cages that have flat platforms which are pretty difficult to put much bedding? Perhaps you can try, using some tape or cardboard/plastic to cover the bottom slightly. This way you can put more bedding without worrying that the bedding will just come out of the cage.

[Mazeon]

Oh sorry, I forgot to mention. When you cover, you cover the bottom part of the grills. Cut it nicely and stick it in such a way that it still fits when you fix up the cage. ^^

[yippieyan]

ok thanks a lot~~ will stick them on =) haha~~ now the 2 hammies seem to be happy in their own level.. Dale happy with his wheel and Chip in his tubes~~ haha~~

[yuheng1993]

try to put them together if can,coz it is quite lonely to be alone..Normally hamsters will fight is because of spaces,since u are using 3 storey cage,it is big enough for the 2 of them.Campbella also house a few hamsters inside a 3 storey cage if i am not wrong.

[Sandy]

You still can let them play together @ 3weeks.
However are you 100% sure they are of the same age..cos sometimes new owners are told they r same but turn out otherwise den u have more den 2 in no time.

You can put abit of bedding in a bowl or inside hamhead or any housing for the top ham.
Some ham dun wan bedding anyway.. LOL

Anyway..is good u are willing separate them!!!!


u can add OVO Den or more tubes ard if u cant have more tank/cage?

[yippieyan]

Sandy, on 23 July 2010 - 11:15 AM, said:

You still can let them play together @ 3weeks.
However are you 100% sure they are of the same age..cos sometimes new owners are told they r same but turn out otherwise den u have more den 2 in no time.

You can put abit of bedding in a bowl or inside hamhead or any housing for the top ham.
Some ham dun wan bedding anyway.. LOL

Anyway..is good u are willing separate them!!!!


u can add OVO Den or more tubes ard if u cant have more tank/cage?

hi Sandy.. thanks for telling me it's good to separate them, coz i felt qt sad after separating them =( they are sooo cute together~~ =(

you mean sex? they are same age coz they're from the same litter and same size also.. another reason of separating them is also coz I dont know how to differentiate their sexes, so play safe separate incase of unwanted pregnancy and I dont want any inbreeding.. I was told both are males though~

hee, i tape paper on the 2nd storey and put some beddings and lots of tissue for him =) and I put all his favourite accessories with him too.. Since 1st ham got the 'better' cage, 2nd ham will get the accessories~~ haha

o anyway after cleaning the cage, can i swop the hamsters around? or will it bt too stressful for them to adapt to a new environment again??

[Sandy]

Hi.. oppps ya i meant sex..
dont worry about them being lonely.. they will be enjoying their own space n no sibling to disturb them!

After washing..is fine to change..no worries de!
LOL u can add more tubes for them play..

Like the pic..i used to give the bottom kid first n 2nd level.. the other kid get the penthouse + added Den.. plus he get the tube downwards..
there r times i see the 2 brothers near each other.. (one sleeping in the tube, one under the tube.. LOL) that their meeting "place" .

[Ruxin]

I totally agree that they should be separated once they started squeaking if you are not able to monitor them closely.
A few months ago, I adopted 2 puddings which the previous owner felt that the 2 are fine together so left them be.
But when I took over and looked closely after a few hours with them, I saw torn ears! When I flipped one of the puddings to the side and spread her skin, I can also see reddish skin and some hair loss near her cheek. The other one has similar problem at her hind leg area.
These are evidence of fight though not aggressive enough to cause bleeding.

As for swapping their home, I do that every time I washed the cages. I like the idea of creating new environment for the hamsters to explore. I don't see any sign of stress when the swapping happen.

[mitsukake]

i feel that u should seperate them..
why go and take the risk.. and end up one with bloody hamster?

then come in and post "HOW AH " thread?
wont it be better if they got their own space.......???
and there is a 0% they will fight coz they are in their own storey.. unless 1 escape la...

some owners will tell u NEVER FIGHT WHAT... SQUEAK SQUEAK nia..
then come out with alot of pattern .. then only when the hamster dead or injured then will come in and make alot of noise..

[Tsuruya19]

I am neutral to both views, as both got their points, but hehes if i were you 3 weeks are still baby age(if the source of age was true ) too young to determine whether will they be suitable with one another or not.
But i agreed to what ruxin said, the moment they start squeaking its time to seperate them. From various article i read, when they are squeaking it shows that they are showing fear/scared..

[yippieyan]

ya, i already separated them.. I was sad to separate them, but decided that I rather be 'sad' than to see an injured hamster.. didnt separate earlier as they were too young, *got them at 2wks* and read tt at 2 weeks by rite they shld still be their parents, thus put them tog for them to cuddle.. they may fight, they may not fight.. I'll never know until that day comes.. but I'll definitely blame myself for the consequences..

haha.. to be fair to them, Chip got the 1st level, Dale got the 2nd level~ 3rd level: for me to put their food~~~ ahahah i'll swap them when cleaning their cage though =)

anyway, thanks all for telling me that my decision to separate is correct =))) will post pics of them soon =0

[yippieyan]

Sandy, on 23 July 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

Hi.. oppps ya i meant sex..
dont worry about them being lonely.. they will be enjoying their own space n no sibling to disturb them!

After washing..is fine to change..no worries de!
LOL u can add more tubes for them play..

Like the pic..i used to give the bottom kid first n 2nd level.. the other kid get the penthouse + added Den.. plus he get the tube downwards..
there r times i see the 2 brothers near each other.. (one sleeping in the tube, one under the tube.. LOL) that their meeting "place" .

hi Sandy,

e other kid get the tube downwards? meaning that the 3 levels are connected? coz by separating them, i removed all connecting tubes, thus they have no chance of being near to each other.. if 1 slps in the tube n 1 under the tube, wont e one in the tube jump down and meet the brother?

[Sandy]

yippieyan, on 24 July 2010 - 01:38 AM, said:

hi Sandy,
e other kid get the tube downwards? meaning that the 3 levels are connected? coz by separating them, i removed all connecting tubes, thus they have no chance of being near to each other.. if 1 slps in the tube n 1 under the tube, wont e one in the tube jump down and meet the brother?

I play ard with the tubings and caps to block them out.
IE.. 1 of them get 1st n 2nd Floor with tubings running inside n outside.
the top boy get 3rd floor + extended tube/den upwards.. and i added tube via the platform downwards..but is blocked at 2nd floor..so the 2 bois get to meet each other on 2nd floor but they see from the tubes.. LOL..
i got alot of tubes last time to fix ard.. extend here n there.