[Bellisimo]

My syrian lady's are between 180-230 as adult, so pretty big. My males are normaly between 150-190. The guinea's here are around 800-1000. All huge

[Sandy]

such an envy!!

Care to share with us what type of food is usually serve to the hamsters there?

[Tsuruya19]

Bellisimo, on 15 March 2010 - 09:50 AM, said:

No no, it aren't campbells, most not even hybride. The black ones are maybe hybride, but opinions about that are different. The WW's are between 60-100 gram here, the whole line is huge

They are not campbells? wow.. i thought it was campbells for a moment until i saw your reply..
Winterwhites have red eyes too? thats something new.... + i didn't know they can have other colours beside the common ones in singapore..
Thanks for sharing the pictures! Interesting !

[Doraemon]

I think different region/country have different naming convention for them.. What's known in Europe may not be the same in Asia....

[mitsukake]

Sandy, on 15 March 2010 - 10:02 AM, said:

60-100g?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!for winter white??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

My goodness.. and some our syrians here are abt 100g only..
think our guinea pigs here will be the size of the syrians there....

suspect it has smth to do with the weather too

[Bellisimo]

Last weeks a lot of ww's loose weight, cause of the winter. It was under 0 degrees for almost 8 weeks. But in summer they come weight again. In the summer it's around 25 degrees max here.

At the moment I feed the last bit of Prestige hamster nature and then I will change to JR-farm hamsterschmaus. But even when you just feed 'labfood' they become that heavy.

[lenawiederbaum]

Hello Bellisimo!

I think your mentioned colors of Winter Whites ARE hybrids. I also know Martin Braak and he definitely wrote that most of the colors are from crossbreeding with Campbells.
yellow-agouti RE: Martin Braak wrote: "De Geel-wildkleur roodoog is eigenlijk geen spontane kleurmutatie geweest, maar is ontstaan uit een kruising met een Campbelli en een Russische dwerghamster." So it is hybrid.
yellow blue fawn: Martin Braak wrote: "Geel Blue-fawn is de combinatie tussen Geel-wildkleur roodoog en Blauw-wildkleur." So it is also hybrid.
These are only two examples, so please don't think the Winter White has such a color-variety like Campbells, too.

So, Tsuruya19, known genmutations on Winter Whites in Germany and also other countries are:
Agouti AA
Saphir dd
Pearl PePe (which is a pattern which can occur to all colors)
Merle Meme (which is also a pattern which can occur to all colors)
Mandarin Mama (which is so diabetic-sensitive that also dutch breeders stop these color)
Camel ddMama (combination of Saphir and Mandarin).

I think the names are different in some countries, but the genetic code not, right?

Love,
Linda